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理上不順
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理上不順 Not Clean in Point of Law

行xíng者zhě道dào:「我wǒ日rì間jiān與yǔ那nà太tài子zǐ誇kuā口kǒu,說shuō我wǒ的de手shǒu段duàn比bǐ山shān還hái高gāo,比bǐ海hǎi還hái深shēn,拿ná那nà妖yāo精jīng如rú探tàn囊náng取qǔ物wù一yì般bān,伸shēn了le手shǒu去qù就jiù拿ná將jiāng轉zhuǎn來lái。卻què也yě睡shuì不bù著zháo,想xiǎng起qǐ來lái,有yǒu些xiē難nán哩li。」唐táng僧sēng道dào:「你nǐ說shuō難nán,便biàn就jiù不bù拿ná了le罷ba。」行xíng者zhě道dào:「拿ná是shì還hái要yào拿ná,只zhǐ是shì理lǐ上shàng不bú順shùn。」唐táng僧sēng道dào:「這zhè猴hóu頭tóu亂luàn說shuō。妖yāo精jīng奪duó了le人rén君jūn位wèi,怎zěn麼me叫jiào做zuò理lǐ上shàng不bú順shùn?」行xíng者zhě道dào:「你nǐ老lǎo人rén家jiā只zhǐ知zhī念niàn經jīng拜bài佛fó,打dǎ坐zuò參cān禪chán,那nǎ曾céng見jiàn那nà蕭xiāo何hé的de律lǜ法fǎ?行xíng者zhě道dào:「我wǒ日rì间jiān与yǔ那nà太tài子zǐ夸kuā口kǒu,说shuō我wǒ的de手shǒu段duàn比bǐ山shān还hái高gāo,比bǐ海hǎi还hái深shēn,拿ná那nà妖yāo精jīng如rú探tàn囊náng取qǔ物wù一yì般bān,伸shēn了le手shǒu去qù就jiù拿ná将jiāng转zhuǎn来lái。却què也yě睡shuì不bù着zháo,想xiǎng起qǐ来lái,有yǒu些xiē难nán哩li。」唐táng僧sēng道dào:「你nǐ说shuō难nán,便biàn就jiù不bù拿ná了le罢ba。」行xíng者zhě道dào:「拿ná是shì还hái要yào拿ná,只zhǐ是shì理lǐ上shàng不bú顺shùn。」唐táng僧sēng道dào:「这zhè猴hóu头tóu乱luàn说shuō。妖yāo精jīng夺duó了le人rén君jūn位wèi,怎zěn么me叫jiào做zuò理lǐ上shàng不bú顺shùn?」行xíng者zhě道dào:「你nǐ老lǎo人rén家jiā只zhǐ知zhī念niàn经jīng拜bài佛fó,打dǎ坐zuò参cān禅chán,那nǎ曾céng见jiàn那nà萧xiāo何hé的de律lǜ法fǎ?


逐句解 Line by line

行xíng者zhě道dào:「我wǒ日rì間jiān與yǔ那nà太tài子zǐ誇kuā口kǒu,說shuō我wǒ的de手shǒu段duàn比bǐ山shān還hái高gāo,比bǐ海hǎi還hái深shēn,拿ná那nà妖yāo精jīng如rú探tàn囊náng取qǔ物wù一yì般bān,伸shēn了le手shǒu去qù就jiù拿ná將jiāng轉zhuǎn來lái。 行xíng者zhě道dào:「我wǒ日rì间jiān与yǔ那nà太tài子zǐ夸kuā口kǒu,说shuō我wǒ的de手shǒu段duàn比bǐ山shān还hái高gāo,比bǐ海hǎi还hái深shēn,拿ná那nà妖yāo精jīng如rú探tàn囊náng取qǔ物wù一yì般bān,伸shēn了le手shǒu去qù就jiù拿ná将jiāng转zhuǎn来lái。

The Pilgrim said: 'By day I boasted to that prince, saying my powers were higher than the mountains and deeper than the seas, and that seizing this demon would be like taking a thing from a bag — I'd reach in my hand and pluck him right out.'

He is not worried about the fight; he is embarrassed about the boast. 誇口 is to brag. 探囊取物 — 'to take a thing out of a bag' — is still the everyday Chinese phrase for something effortlessly easy, the way English says 'like taking candy from a baby.' 拿將轉來: grab him and haul him back (將 = jiāng). 那, twice, = nà; 太子: 子 = zǐ; 還, twice, = hái.

卻què也yě睡shuì不bù著zháo,想xiǎng起qǐ來lái,有yǒu些xiē難nán哩li。」 却què也yě睡shuì不bù着zháo,想xiǎng起qǐ来lái,有yǒu些xiē难nán哩li。」

'But now I cannot sleep, for thinking it over, there is some difficulty in it.'

睡不著: cannot get to sleep, 著 read zháo, which sets 不 at bù. 有些難: there is a difficulty in it (難 = nán).

唐táng僧sēng道dào:「你nǐ說shuō難nán,便biàn就jiù不bù拿ná了le罷ba。」 唐táng僧sēng道dào:「你nǐ说shuō难nán,便biàn就jiù不bù拿ná了le罢ba。」

The Tang Monk said: 'If you say it is hard, then just do not seize him, and let it be.'

Tripitaka's solution is beautifully simple: if it is hard, don't. 便就不拿了罷 — 'then just don't seize him, and be done' (罷 = ba).

行xíng者zhě道dào:「拿ná是shì還hái要yào拿ná,只zhǐ是shì理lǐ上shàng不bú順shùn。」 行xíng者zhě道dào:「拿ná是shì还hái要yào拿ná,只zhǐ是shì理lǐ上shàng不bú顺shùn。」

The Pilgrim said: 'Seize him I still mean to; only the thing is not clean in point of law.'

And here is the surprise. 理上不順 means the case will not run smoothly in point of principle — the seizure would not stand up. The Monkey King, of all creatures, has been lying awake worrying about procedure. 還 = hái.

唐táng僧sēng道dào:「這zhè猴hóu頭tóu亂luàn說shuō。 唐táng僧sēng道dào:「这zhè猴hóu头tóu乱luàn说shuō。

The Tang Monk said: 'This monkey-head is talking nonsense.'

猴頭, 'monkey-head,' is Tripitaka's habitual name for his disciple, insult and endearment in the same breath. 亂說: talking wildly.

妖yāo精jīng奪duó了le人rén君jūn位wèi,怎zěn麼me叫jiào做zuò理lǐ上shàng不bú順shùn?」 妖yāo精jīng夺duó了le人rén君jūn位wèi,怎zěn么me叫jiào做zuò理lǐ上shàng不bú顺shùn?」

'A demon has seized a sovereign's throne — how can you call that "not clean in point of law"?'

A demon has stolen a throne. Where exactly is the legal difficulty? It is the straight man's line, and it is a fair question.

行xíng者zhě道dào:「你nǐ老lǎo人rén家jiā只zhǐ知zhī念niàn經jīng拜bài佛fó,打dǎ坐zuò參cān禪chán,那nǎ曾céng見jiàn那nà蕭xiāo何hé的de律lǜ法fǎ? 行xíng者zhě道dào:「你nǐ老lǎo人rén家jiā只zhǐ知zhī念niàn经jīng拜bài佛fó,打dǎ坐zuò参cān禅chán,那nǎ曾céng见jiàn那nà萧xiāo何hé的de律lǜ法fǎ?

The Pilgrim said: 'You, sir, know only how to chant sutras and worship the Buddha, to sit in meditation and practice Chan — when did you ever look into the statutes of Xiao He?'

The retort is a good one. You know sutras, says Wukong; you have never read a statute. 念經拜佛,打坐參禪 — chanting scriptures and bowing to the Buddha, sitting in meditation and working at Chan — is a four-part portrait of the monk's whole day (參 = cān; 佛 = fó). 蕭何, Xiao He, was the Han statesman who codified the empire's law, so invoking him is like saying 'you have never opened a law book in your life.' Note the two readings of 那 in one sentence: 那曾見 is the questioning nǎ, 'when did you ever?', while 那蕭何 is the pointing nà, 'that Xiao He.'


總評 Commentary

Wukong's midnight worry is a delightfully unexpected one. He has no doubt at all that he can beat the demon — he has already boasted it would be like taking a thing out of a bag — but he doubts he can prosecute him. The Monkey King, so often simply a weapon with opinions, here turns out to have a lawyer's caution: the seizure would be 理上不順, not clean in point of law.

Tripitaka plays the straight man to perfection. If it is hard, don't do it; and in any case a demon on a stolen throne is plainly a criminal, so where is the difficulty? His common sense sets off his disciple's cleverness, and the mismatch between the meditating monk and the scheming ape is what drives the scene.

Wukong's retort — that his master knows sutras but not the statutes of Xiao He — reaches for the great Han codifier of law as the emblem of due process, and names the passage's real subject: the gap between knowing something is true and being able to prove it. The chapter's concern with sorting false from true has taken a courtroom turn, and it points straight at what Wukong will need next, which is a body.